It's been over a year and half since the release of Beyoncé's infamous 2016 album Lemonade, and Jay-Z is finally opening up about the pain he caused Beyoncé with his infidelity in a recent interview with T Magazine. The two used "art nearly like a therapy session" together. "And if you didn't have a problem with the general statement I made about black people, and people eating watermelon and things like that [the animated music video for the song, which references racist cartoons, includes a caricature of a black man eating watermelon] - if that was fine, [but] that line about wealth bothered you, then that's very hypocritical, and, you know, that's something within yourself". So [Lemonade] came out as opposed to the joint album that we were working on.
Jay-Z also spoke about his widely-publicised falling out with Kanye West, saying that he hoped they would laugh it off in future. I love Kanye, ' he said. "It's a complicated relationship with us", Jay-Z said. "So I've always been like his big brother", JAY said. And we both love and respect each other's art, too. The great thing about Donald Trump being president is now we're forced to have the dialogue. Governments and politicians come and go, but the ability to practice and demonstrate personal decency, to say and do the things that make life fairer and more just for the weakest and least privileged among us, is inalienable, and the truest exertion of personal autonomy. And a lot of times he get in trouble trying to help others. "At the end of the day we gonna find out it's not about the white-hot space, but it's about finding the truth". "It actually started out [that] we were working on material together", Jay reveals at 16:30 in the video interview (this segment is not included in the transcript). And, you know, supports them. It's just that there's certain things that happened that's not really acceptable to me. "We were sitting in the eye of that hurricane". "I think he started out in a more compassionate position than me". So, I can identify with it. So I just grew up a different way. You know. And we were just talking as friends. Because as he'll tell anyone, Jay-Z's plan has always been to live forever. "But there's genuine love there".
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