Marc Maron Says Louis CK Lied to Him About Masturbation Claims

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Maron moved on to address whether there was culpability for C.K.'s actions, given that rumors about his now-admitted inappropriate behavior had swirled around the comedy community for years.

The latest comedian to grapple with the Louis C.K. news is one of his friends, Marc Maron, who spends the introduction of today's episode of WTF trying to come to terms with not just C.K. but his own complicity in a culture that made it impossible for women comics to come forward with their stories about being harassed and assaulted. One of the comedians people were most interested to hear from was Marc Maron, host of the popular podcast WTF with Marc Maron, and a long-time friend of Louis C.K., whose appearance on the show's 700th episode has always been considered one of WTF's best. Louis C.K. was the head writer, the guy who presumably did the hiring. However, he says that the star lied to him, prompting him to side with his friend on the matter - until now.

"I didn't know their names until Friday, so I believed my friend", Maron said sadly.

Every so often, the story about him forcing women to watch him masturbate would pick up momentum in the media, and Maron said he asked C.K. whether it was true. "And I would ask him about it".


"You know, when you have a man brain or are not capable of empathizing properly with women, which I don't think a lot of men are-and I'm not speaking for all men, but I can speak for myself-to find that empathy requires some sort of vigilance", he said. "Handle it? Get out from under it whenever it shows up?'" Maron said. It'll give it air.' And that - that was the conversation.

Maron said society's "implicit and malignant age-old power dynamic" enabled the "dismissiveness" of C.K.'s misconduct. Maron said in that particular instance, no women were named in the story and it was easy to believe C.K.

"There were no women attached to this story", Maron said, explaining that the victims in question were anonymous as far as he knew. "How do I put this: the work environment and the social environment makes it hard for people to come forward and be heard, to be listened to, to be believed, and for action to be taken around that".

"The work environment, the social environment makes it hard for people to come forward and be heard, to be listened to, to be believed and for action to be taken around that", he said. "It is pushed aside, it is dismissed, it is framed as an annoyance or an embarrassment, it is used against people, it is used as a threat". "He did some bad, selfish, hurtful, traumatizing, insensitive, creepy, sexual things to some women and now he is facing the consequences", Maron wrote.


Maron contends that he "knew what most people knew". "And you know, he's in big fucking trouble".

"Look, everybody has made mistakes", he said.

"I'm disappointed in my friend. It's probably the best time to be his friend when he needs to make changes in his life". "I can learn from it, he can learn from it".

But what is rarely acknowledged, he said, is that women have to be especially tough to fight it out because they have to deal with a lot of "male (expletive)". "And I wielded that power irresponsibly". What do you want me to do?


Actress Chloë Grace Moretz, who plays C.K.'s daughter in the film, released a statement saying she decided two weeks ago to pull out of promoting the project "after becoming aware of potential allegations against Louis C.K".

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